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Applications => Administrator Applications => Denied Applications => Topic started by: Gummy Bear | Designer on May 13, 2017, 12:02:01 PM
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1. Which position do you wish to apply for?
Game Server Admin
2. Have you ever previously applied for a position in SwapShop?
Yes
3. List any current staff members you know or have any personal relations with.
Sipow, RenoRaider, Mizzle Grizzle, Penny Fitzgerald, Fluffy, Flaming Cheetos, Shh, Synicle, Zabiroc, and Virus Alpha
4. Do you have a microphone that you are willing to use?
Yes
5. Age:
17
6. What Time Zone do you live in?
Central Time Zone
7. List and describe any previous supervisory, administrative or management experience, in or out of the game:
Used to be a Co-Owner of Fragging Adventure. (http://steamcommunity.com/groups/fraggingadventurek) Left because the owner had a Competitive Ego. In real life, I work in a restaurant called Phin. I'm the servant that handles food and manages the restaurant too.
8. What are your goals in this community - or, why do you want to hold this position?
My goals are to keep the community of the server as a friendly, kindly server. We treat everyone respectfully and everyone should be treated equally.
9. How much time will you be able to spend:
A. On the servers?
I would spend about an hour or two on the servers if any reports are notified. If not, I would occasionally come in and relax and spend time with other people.
B. On the forums?
Mostly about 1-2 hours a day if anything is needed or updated.
10. How long have you been playing on our group of servers?
I played on TF2SS for about 1,500 hours already.
11. Do you speak any languages other than English?
I speak Vietnamese, but mostly English.
12. Link your SteamRep and other sources that show your reputation here:
| steamname: Panda #TeamCitrus
| steam3ID: [U:1:100092289]
| steamID32: STEAM_0:1:50046144
| steamID64: http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198060358017
| customURL: http://steamcommunity.com/id/uncleasianpanda
| steamrep: http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198060358017
13. If you have alternate accounts, list any alternate accounts that you own:
None.
14. Describe a time when you lost control of your emotions and how you were able to cope with the situation (P.S: This can be about anything; it doesn't have to be from in-game.):
I've had a stressful moment when I used to date this one chick I liked. I've lost control when she made a rumor about me that made me look bad. Now that I've moved on with my other girl, I try to forget the past and move on.
15. What do you consider in your personality to be strengths? What do you consider in your personality to be weaknesses?
My strengths are being a friendly person, having a good relationship with people, and willing to hear other people situations and try to give them an advice or a feedback. My weakness is managing the time of helping others when I'm busy with work. I lack of managing my time of what is important.
16. Assess these attributes from 1 to 10 based on how you see yourself:
- Logical: 8
- Patient: 8
- Reactive: 7
- Creative: 8
- Polite: 9
- Reasonable: 8
- Objective: 8
- Perceptive: 9
- Compassionate: 9
- Troubleshooter: 8
- Honest: 10
17. After you become an admin, how would you react to these situations below:
A: How would you deal with a person who was making racist comments?
I would kindly ask the person to stop saying that. If he does not, I would gag/mute him for 30 mins.
B: A group of players are offended by remarks that another player made, but you yourself do not find them to be offensive. How would you respond?
I would tell the player who said it to apologize to the players that find it offensive and warn him to not say it again.
C: How would you deal with players who micspam?
I would warn the mic-spammer to stop. If he doesn't, I will mute him for 30 mins.
D: Another TF2SS admin is exploiting their powers in game; what will you do about it?
I would notify the higher officials that there is an issue of Admin Abuse from this person.
E: What would you do when answering a report that [username] is speed hacking on one of our servers?
I would come in and see if he is really speed hacking. If he really is, I would IP ban him. If the report was fake, then the player that sent it will receive a day ban.
F: A regular user threatens to ban another player if they do not comply with rules that do not exist. What will you do about it?
I will warn the player that was making false rules to read the rules again and if he still thinks his rules are better, I will mute/gag the person for an hour. If he repeats the issue, I will ban him for a day.
G: A group of enemy players dominate you, ignoring everyone else and changing teams if you join the team they are on, killing only you over and over again. What will you do about it?
I would just join Spectate. There's no point of being mad over a game.
H: How do you deal with a player who comments publicly that: you are an asshole, the server sucks ass, and continues to insult anyone who kills them with profanity & by screaming on the mic?
I would warn the player to stop being a brat and man up. It's just a game. I also would tell him that he could leave and join another server, since they are more than one server in TF2. If he still acts childish, I would mute/gag him for 30 mins.
I: A regular player on our server says that they will offer free godmode for anyone who trades a hat to them. What will you do about it?
I would ban the person for an hour for Admin Impersonation. I would also warn the player who is giving the hat to be careful of who he is trading too.
J: A player who bought the Headless Horsemann perk from the shop complains after another player slays him/her. What do you tell the slayed Headless Horsemann player?
I would tell him that it's just a game. If it's an issue to him, he could move to a different server. If he still complains, I would kindly warn him to stop spamming. If he doesn't comply, I would mute him for 30 mins.
K: How do you define Admin abuse?
I define admin abuse as if someone is using their powers as if they are the superior of the server. They take their powers and make other people to obey that person. I also define Admin abuse as a person that doesn't show respect to other players by abusing their powers on them.
After filling out this application, what are your feelings toward becoming a Server Admin on our servers?
I would feel glad, but I will also do my duty of keeping the server friendly and kindly. No one wants to deal with people who are negative.
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Please answer the following questions:
17. After you become an admin, how would you react to these situations below:
A: How would you deal with a person who was making racist comments?
I would kindly ask the person to stop saying that. If he does not, I would gag/mute him for 30 mins.
After the gag/mute has expired and the person continues making racist comments, what will you do?
B: A group of players are offended by remarks that another player made, but you yourself do not find them to be offensive. How would you respond?
I would tell the player who said it to apologize to the players that find it offensive and warn him to not say it again.
What will you do if the person ignores you and continues being offensive to other players?
C: How would you deal with players who micspam?
I would warn the mic-spammer to stop. If he doesn't, I will mute him for 30 mins.
After the mute expires and the person continues micspamming, what action(s) will you take next?
E: What would you do when answering a report that [username] is speed hacking on one of our servers?
I would come in and see if he is really speed hacking. If he really is, I would IP ban him. If the report was fake, then the player that sent it will receive a day ban.
What if the reporter genuinely believed that the reported player was hacking?
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Please answer the following questions:
17. After you become an admin, how would you react to these situations below:
A: How would you deal with a person who was making racist comments?
I would kindly ask the person to stop saying that. If he does not, I would gag/mute him for 30 mins.
After the gag/mute has expired and the person continues making racist comments, what will you do?
-If he does make a racist comment again, I would gag/mute him for an hour for a repetition of the offense. If this continues, I would ban him for an hour for not following instructions.
B: A group of players are offended by remarks that another player made, but you yourself do not find them to be offensive. How would you respond?
I would tell the player who said it to apologize to the players that find it offensive and warn him to not say it again.
What will you do if the person ignores you and continues being offensive to other players?
-If the person ignores me, I would gag/mute him for 30 mins for spamming. If he ignores me again, I would ban him for an hour for not following instructions.
C: How would you deal with players who micspam?
I would warn the mic-spammer to stop. If he doesn't, I will mute him for 30 mins.
After the mute expires and the person continues micspamming, what action(s) will you take next?
-The next action I would extend his gag/mute period. If it reaches to the point where he doesn't follow my instructions that is within the rules, I would ban him for an hour and extend it if needed.
E: What would you do when answering a report that [username] is speed hacking on one of our servers?
I would come in and see if he is really speed hacking. If he really is, I would IP ban him. If the report was fake, then the player that sent it will receive a day ban.
What if the reporter genuinely believed that the reported player was hacking?
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Can you answer the last question?
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Can you answer the last question?
Sorry, I did not see the last question.
-If the reporter was telling the truth, I still want to come in and check it out. That doesn't mean I trust him. I just felt like double checking is a wise choice.
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Can you answer the last question?
Sorry, I did not see the last question.
-If the reporter was telling the truth, I still want to come in and check it out. That doesn't mean I trust him. I just felt like double checking is a wise choice.
No worries.
But let me rephrase my question:
What if the reporter genuinely believed that the reported player was hacking but upon investigation, you find out that the reporter player was playing legitimately. Then what would you do with the reporter?
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Can you answer the last question?
Sorry, I did not see the last question.
-If the reporter was telling the truth, I still want to come in and check it out. That doesn't mean I trust him. I just felt like double checking is a wise choice.
No worries.
But let me rephrase my question:
What if the reporter genuinely believed that the reported player was hacking but upon investigation, you find out that the reporter player was playing legitimately. Then what would you do with the reporter?
-I would tell the reporter that he is wrong and would give him a day to a week, depending how he describes the situation. And I will ask the reporter why he false report him for.
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Can you answer the last question?
Sorry, I did not see the last question.
-If the reporter was telling the truth, I still want to come in and check it out. That doesn't mean I trust him. I just felt like double checking is a wise choice.
No worries.
But let me rephrase my question:
What if the reporter genuinely believed that the reported player was hacking but upon investigation, you find out that the reporter player was playing legitimately. Then what would you do with the reporter?
-I would tell the reporter that he is wrong and would give him a day to a week, depending how he describes the situation. And I will ask the reporter why he false report him for.
Hmm, alright. Let's go through this slowly.
The reporter will be labeled as player A and the reported player will be labeled as player B.
Player A reports player B for hacking.
Upon investigation, you confirm that player B was playing legitimately.
However, player A, from their perspective, genuinely believed that player B was hacking.
Would you punish player A for thinking that player B was hacking?
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Can you answer the last question?
Sorry, I did not see the last question.
-If the reporter was telling the truth, I still want to come in and check it out. That doesn't mean I trust him. I just felt like double checking is a wise choice.
No worries.
But let me rephrase my question:
What if the reporter genuinely believed that the reported player was hacking but upon investigation, you find out that the reporter player was playing legitimately. Then what would you do with the reporter?
-I would tell the reporter that he is wrong and would give him a day to a week, depending how he describes the situation. And I will ask the reporter why he false report him for.
Hmm, alright. Let's go through this slowly.
The reporter will be labeled as player A and the reported player will be labeled as player B.
Player A reports player B for hacking.
Upon investigation, you confirm that player B was playing legitimately.
However, player A, from their perspective, genuinely believed that player B was hacking.
Would you punish player A for thinking that player B was hacking?
-Sadly yes, because he doesn't have evidence that he is legitimately hacking until he shows proof that he is. It can be from a video to be used as his evidence.
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What if I were to tell you that banning is a last resort?
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What if I were to tell you that banning is a last resort?
I'll ban him until he shows me evidence of this situation. If he does show proof, I'll unban him.
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Panda,
Do you feel the object of the Report bot is to give an accurate report, with evidence included as to make a ban happen, or to report behavior that an admin would then act on, gathering evidence and then banning a player?
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Panda,
Do you feel the object of the Report bot is to give an accurate report, with evidence included as to make a ban happen, or to report behavior that an admin would then act on, gathering evidence and then banning a player?
-Well, the report bot only tells the situation. I'm curious to know if it gathers info of each client and puts it into a server info that Admins can check?
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To everyone that is confused to my answer.
What I've stated is if the reporter made a report to the Person B (the hacker) and if the report bot shows the evidence of the situation. If the Person B is a hacker, I would ban the hacker. If the evidence is false, I would ban the reporter for false accusation and lying. If the reporter complains and says that he is telling the truth, I still would look into the evidence of the bot.
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So what your saying is that if someone thought somebody was hacking and made a report that turned out to be false, you would ban them just because of a false accusation and believed to be lying? Because some players will sometimes honestly think somebody is hacking when they are not, is this wrong in your eyes? To me its just simple human error that is natural to everyone.
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So what your saying is that if someone thought somebody was hacking and made a report that turned out to be false, you would ban them just because of a false accusation and believed to be lying? Because some players will sometimes honestly think somebody is hacking when they are not, is this wrong in your eyes? To me its just simple human error that is natural to everyone.
Well, now. I've been thinking about this. I wouldn't ban the reporter for what he saw. I will not ban the reporter for his view. If people in the server agrees of what he saw, that means he's telling the truth. But if other people say he's lying, then he'll be banned.
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So what your saying is that if someone thought somebody was hacking and made a report that turned out to be false, you would ban them just because of a false accusation and believed to be lying? Because some players will sometimes honestly think somebody is hacking when they are not, is this wrong in your eyes? To me its just simple human error that is natural to everyone.
Well, now. I've been thinking about this. I wouldn't ban the reporter for what he saw. I will not ban the reporter for his view. If people in the server agrees of what he saw, that means he's telling the truth. But if other people say he's lying, then he'll be banned.
I've been trying to keep quiet about this, for reasons one, maybe two admins know? But I can't. Regardless if the reporter is "lying" or not. You don't ever ban them. That's a quick way to instantly get demoted. If the reporter sends a report, thinking someone is hacking, go in a check. If the person that got reported seems fine, let the other admins know and just leave it at that. Don't ban an innocent person because they thought someone was hacking.
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Panda,
Everyone interprets their environment differently. Punishing a player for honestly believing that someone is hacking is both abusive and unnecessary.
If you were to call 911 because you suspected your neighbor to be committing an illegal crime, and he turned out to be innocent, do you think it's fair for the cop to arrest you and put you in jail for a day?
The purpose of the report bot is so that players can send reports if they believe that someone is breaking a rule. Administrators are the ones who have to gather the evidence before taking actions against players that are being reported.
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Someone abusing the report bot is a different question, and even then they wouldn't be banned they just get a ban from the report bot and cannot use it. You seem to fail to understand what question is being asked here or the fact that your response to banning someone simply because they thought someone else was hacking makes no logical sense what-so-ever.
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What if I were to tell you that banning is a last resort?
I'll ban him until he shows me evidence of this situation. If he does show proof, I'll unban him.
Let me refer back to above that BANNING IS A LAST / AFTER MULTIPLE INSTANCES RESORT. Not to mention the fact that we have to gather the evidence if someone is doing this or that, not have them show us evidence since any hacker or rule breaker is obviously going to say they aren't and can easily falsify information.
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Someone abusing the report bot is a different question, and even then they wouldn't be banned they just get a ban from the report bot and cannot use it. You seem to fail to understand what question is being asked here or the fact that your response to banning someone simply because they thought someone else was hacking makes no logical sense what-so-ever.
Here's what I was trying to say. If someone made a report about a hacker, I would come in. If the Person that is being reported is playing legit, and the reporter swears he's telling the truth. I'll look for evidence of the Person that is being reported.
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Someone abusing the report bot is a different question, and even then they wouldn't be banned they just get a ban from the report bot and cannot use it. You seem to fail to understand what question is being asked here or the fact that your response to banning someone simply because they thought someone else was hacking makes no logical sense what-so-ever.
Here's what I was trying to say. If someone made a report about a hacker, I would come in. If the Person that is being reported is playing legit, and the reporter swears he's telling the truth. I'll look for evidence of the Person that is being reported.
I'll also won't punish the player until it comes to a conclusion.
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Someone abusing the report bot is a different question, and even then they wouldn't be banned they just get a ban from the report bot and cannot use it. You seem to fail to understand what question is being asked here or the fact that your response to banning someone simply because they thought someone else was hacking makes no logical sense what-so-ever.
Here's what I was trying to say. If someone made a report about a hacker, I would come in. If the Person that is being reported is playing legit, and the reporter swears he's telling the truth. I'll look for evidence of the Person that is being reported.
Smashing Head Against Keyboard
Someone sending in a report and being wrong is different than someone spamming or purposefully sending fake reports, it would be quite obvious too. Anyone can think anyone else is hacking if they are a good player. You do not punish the reporter unless it's obvious spam. You come in and gather evidence immediately, you don't ask whats happening or say you're an admin because otherwise they will stop hacking. You come in, you look for evidence and watch the person, and if they aren't hacking, you leave. You never punish the reporter unless they are spamming/abusing the report bot with mutliple reports or trash reports, and even then you give them a report ban.
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Someone abusing the report bot is a different question, and even then they wouldn't be banned they just get a ban from the report bot and cannot use it. You seem to fail to understand what question is being asked here or the fact that your response to banning someone simply because they thought someone else was hacking makes no logical sense what-so-ever.
Here's what I was trying to say. If someone made a report about a hacker, I would come in. If the Person that is being reported is playing legit, and the reporter swears he's telling the truth. I'll look for evidence of the Person that is being reported.
Smashing Head Against Keyboard
Someone sending in a report and being wrong is different than someone spamming or purposefully sending fake reports, it would be quite obvious too. Anyone can think anyone else is hacking if they are a good player. You do not punish the reporter unless it's obvious spam. You come in and gather evidence immediately, you don't ask whats happening or say you're an admin because otherwise they will stop hacking. You come in, you look for evidence and watch the person, and if they aren't hacking, you leave. You never punish the reporter unless they are spamming/abusing the report bot with mutliple reports or trash reports, and even then you give them a report ban.
That's what I mean though... Sorry for the confusion.
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Someone abusing the report bot is a different question, and even then they wouldn't be banned they just get a ban from the report bot and cannot use it. You seem to fail to understand what question is being asked here or the fact that your response to banning someone simply because they thought someone else was hacking makes no logical sense what-so-ever.
Here's what I was trying to say. If someone made a report about a hacker, I would come in. If the Person that is being reported is playing legit, and the reporter swears he's telling the truth. I'll look for evidence of the Person that is being reported.
Smashing Head Against Keyboard
Someone sending in a report and being wrong is different than someone spamming or purposefully sending fake reports, it would be quite obvious too. Anyone can think anyone else is hacking if they are a good player. You do not punish the reporter unless it's obvious spam. You come in and gather evidence immediately, you don't ask whats happening or say you're an admin because otherwise they will stop hacking. You come in, you look for evidence and watch the person, and if they aren't hacking, you leave. You never punish the reporter unless they are spamming/abusing the report bot with mutliple reports or trash reports, and even then you give them a report ban.
That's what I mean though... Sorry for the confusion.
That's not how you were making it seem. It still sounded like you were going to ban the reporter either way.
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Smashing Head Against Keyboard
Someone sending in a report and being wrong is different than someone spamming or purposefully sending fake reports, it would be quite obvious too. Anyone can think anyone else is hacking if they are a good player. You do not punish the reporter unless it's obvious spam. You come in and gather evidence immediately, you don't ask whats happening or say you're an admin because otherwise they will stop hacking. You come in, you look for evidence and watch the person, and if they aren't hacking, you leave. You never punish the reporter unless they are spamming/abusing the report bot with mutliple reports or trash reports, and even then you give them a report ban.
That's what I mean though... Sorry for the confusion.
Anything you've said doesn't sound anything like what I've said though, if you meant to say that it would've sound at least similar. Your solutions and responses have all be kind of extreme, illogical, or a mess of details and changing mind on how you would handle it. You've been talking about banning, asking the person who reported, asking the server, making your presence known, and most likely compromising your ability to gather proper evidence. You've most likely gotten questions mixed up and now I have no clue what your actual answer could ever have been or how you would truly respond since it's changed after every time we rephrase or to match whatever we have just said is a proper response.
I'm just going to step back from this as any response you give at this point is compromised from your confusion and constant changing responses. That and I really have no clue what else to say, explain, or do so.
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Someone abusing the report bot is a different question, and even then they wouldn't be banned they just get a ban from the report bot and cannot use it. You seem to fail to understand what question is being asked here or the fact that your response to banning someone simply because they thought someone else was hacking makes no logical sense what-so-ever.
Here's what I was trying to say. If someone made a report about a hacker, I would come in. If the Person that is being reported is playing legit, and the reporter swears he's telling the truth. I'll look for evidence of the Person that is being reported.
Smashing Head Against Keyboard
Someone sending in a report and being wrong is different than someone spamming or purposefully sending fake reports, it would be quite obvious too. Anyone can think anyone else is hacking if they are a good player. You do not punish the reporter unless it's obvious spam. You come in and gather evidence immediately, you don't ask whats happening or say you're an admin because otherwise they will stop hacking. You come in, you look for evidence and watch the person, and if they aren't hacking, you leave. You never punish the reporter unless they are spamming/abusing the report bot with mutliple reports or trash reports, and even then you give them a report ban.
That's what I mean though... Sorry for the confusion.
That's not how you were making it seem. It still sounded like you were going to ban the reporter either way.
Well, I must have misunderstood. What I meant to say was if the reporter makes a report of a hacker and it turns out false, I would warn the reporter. I didn't mean to say I would ban him. My apologies.
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Someone abusing the report bot is a different question, and even then they wouldn't be banned they just get a ban from the report bot and cannot use it. You seem to fail to understand what question is being asked here or the fact that your response to banning someone simply because they thought someone else was hacking makes no logical sense what-so-ever.
Here's what I was trying to say. If someone made a report about a hacker, I would come in. If the Person that is being reported is playing legit, and the reporter swears he's telling the truth. I'll look for evidence of the Person that is being reported.
Smashing Head Against Keyboard
Someone sending in a report and being wrong is different than someone spamming or purposefully sending fake reports, it would be quite obvious too. Anyone can think anyone else is hacking if they are a good player. You do not punish the reporter unless it's obvious spam. You come in and gather evidence immediately, you don't ask whats happening or say you're an admin because otherwise they will stop hacking. You come in, you look for evidence and watch the person, and if they aren't hacking, you leave. You never punish the reporter unless they are spamming/abusing the report bot with mutliple reports or trash reports, and even then you give them a report ban.
That's what I mean though... Sorry for the confusion.
That's not how you were making it seem. It still sounded like you were going to ban the reporter either way.
Well, I must have misunderstood. What I meant to say was if the reporter makes a report of a hacker and it turns out false, I would warn the reporter. I didn't mean to say I would ban him. My apologies.
No need to warn. Check the report. Simple right? Can't be confusing. Go in server, watch the person that was reported. Don't see anything, let it be known in report bot. Then you can either stay and play or leave to somewhere else. That's up to you. It's literally that simple.
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Ban and warn are very different words in meaning and spelling. Not knowing the difference between the two before making an application is not a good thing either, or that it took you this long to figure out. And even then you still seem to not understand that in the situation being asked you do not punish the reporter, they are not abusing the report bot.
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Please word your posts in a constructive manner. This is starting to turn into an argument. Let us not fall to our emotions.
Now panda in terms of a report please understand that no action is allowed to be taken against someone unless they are spamming the bot or misusing it. In that case they are stopped from using the bot entirely.
Hades
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Please word your posts in a constructive manner. This is starting to turn into an argument. Let us not fall to our emotions.
Now panda in terms of a report please understand that no action is allowed to be taken against someone unless they are spamming the bot or misusing it. In that case they are stopped from using the bot entirely.
Hades
-I now understand.
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Thank you for answering our questions.
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Thank you for answering our questions.
You're welcome.
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Thank you for applying for TF2SwapShop administration, however we regret to inform you that we feel that you do not satisfy our standards for server administrators at the moment.
You may re-apply again after 3 months have passed.
Application denied.