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Reporting & Help Section => Ban Appeals => Denied Ban Appeals => Topic started by: GOTDAGUDGRAMAR on February 28, 2016, 02:51:33 PM
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Server banned from: TF2SS.COM #15 | Orange X4 | crits | FREE PERKS!
The name of the admin that banned you: I don't know.
What you were banned for: Aimbot
An estimated time and date of when you were banned: 02-28-16 16:28
Other information that you feel is important: I was demo and seventeen was calling me out. he kept staying a red spawn. so any ordinary person would look around to see if any emeies were anywhere.
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I have been told that you have been banned for aimbot many times, including when it was an IP ban. You had basically no hours on TF2 itself. I was told you have been using a VPN proxy and different accounts to avoid bans. I was also in spectator for a short amount of time, and it seemed like you were using ESP or wallhacks.
This is the profile I saw. You account was literally made today. http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198287040519
I do not believe you should be unbanned.
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0.9 hours on the account... says it all right there.
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0.9 hours on the account... says it all right there.
To be Truthful, he was and or possibly still is close friends with one of our Administrators. Though it is up to them if they choose to come forward and discuss it.
I know you as a friend named "Troll" Not specifically as a name for you as a harasser, more like that just has been your most commonly used username.
Troll has been known to cheat and script on our servers and has been warned many times not too. Admittedly too much special treatment of being "Let off the hook" If the actions would stop. BUT Troll has also been known to play legitimately, as he has respected mine and others requests.
But I know for a fact that he still contains a Paid LMAOBox Program on his computer.
Do I believe in second chances? Hell yeah I do. But buddy... this is the 6th or 7th chance man... It just needs to stop.
You were also asked to make a detailed appeal, and each time if you just admitted to cheating with Wallhacks or anything, and asked for another chance, I'd be all for it. But you act like you didn't. I just wish you wouldn't fight it like this at all. It's been clear, if you're going to cheat, cheat on other servers, a valve server, I don't care if you cheat anywhere else, but it's just disrespectful when you're asked not to but do it anyway.
Unless you make a change in this appeal, admitting you did it, I might try and fight to offer you a second chance. But I can not promise the same from the rest of the staff.
Sorry buddy, It's time you walked up to the plate and admitted wrong.
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I was not cheating on tf2ss. I've been playing csgo lately and it became a habit of checking everywhere.
that and how seventeen kept flying to our spawn with demo I was being cautious.
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And also I have no vac on my main nor alt. Why would I risk of getting my main VAC'd and lose all of my items?
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I was behind a wall and he somehow had the knowingly attributes to detonate them right when I walked towards them. And I'm pretty sure the LMAOBOX Wolf has brought up probably has a feature that detonates stickies automatically.
All these suspicious claims, and it all comes back to an account with 0.9 hours. It seems to be a pattern here.
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But the fact that I play legit whenever I play on any tf2ss servers. I would never cheat on my favorite servers. Most of my my hours came from those servers alone.
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Do you have a link to your main account so that we can double check and make sure this isn't a mistake?
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http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198031700108/
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So why are you playing on an alt account?
~16
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Cuz since I was banned on my main. I still wanted to play on tf2ss servers with my friends. I was banned on both of these accounts. the main was banned for aimbot while he was soldier, this alt was banned for aimbot(by the looks of this cheat they would mean visuals) while he was Demo.
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Why couldn't you make an appeal on your main account?
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I did but it got denied. and I really didn't have much proof to help save it. the fact that i was soldier when i got banned.
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We will need some type of proof that you're not hacking on the SwapShop servers.
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Can you give some ideas of how to show you that i'm not hacking? (playing csgo comp right now)
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Can you give some ideas of how to show you that i'm not hacking? (playing csgo comp right now)
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He is a player of the community so I would like to defend him. His main is friends with Luna and Peachie so that means he plays on server 15 a lot (i'm sure). Also, there are quite a few comments on his profile from Peachie so I'm guessing he isn't a bad guy. His main account ban was on Server 09 in November last year. He did try to make an appeal and I guess that failed. So now he made this alt and was banned again. Was he hacking? I don't know. Asking him to provide proof for why he wasn't hacking is a bit backwards. There should be provided proof of him hacking so that there is no question why the ban stands. If there is no proof other than the claims of an admin, I believe he deserves a second chance. If he messes that up, then rest in peace. He has applied for a ban appeal twice, and has circumvented a ban by creating an alt. Of course, that doesn't sound good, but it shows his dedication to play on SS servers. Innocent until proven guilty? I hope so.
~16
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But the fact that I play legit whenever I play on any tf2ss servers. I would never cheat on my favorite servers. Most of my my hours came from those servers alone.
So you admit to owning a "Premium version of LMAOBOX" hacks on your computer and you admit to the fact that it is available for you to use at any given moment in time with this statement.
Luna:
this is the 6th or 7th chance man... It just needs to stop.
6-7 chances now, are you kidding me? This is defiance beyond anything morally acceptable by society in or out of this game.
Sixteen:
He has applied for a ban appeal twice, and has circumvented a ban by creating an alt. Of course, that doesn't sound good
Okay, so:
1. Main account=BANNED
2. Alt-account=BANNED
3. What do you think we expect in this slot? A clean account with no hacks?
but it shows his dedication to play on SS servers. Innocent until proven guilty? I hope so.
play=blatantly hack
I can't recall many ban appeals that were accepted after the user was proven to be hacking, let alone twice. You have yet to provide any evidence to prove your innocence, so until then I do not believe this ban should be lifted. Should we find you on another alt account, well let's just say that I predicted that one. (Then again, we all know it's gonna happen).
Also:
Do I believe in second chances? Hell yeah I do.
If there is no proof other than the claims of an admin, I believe he deserves a second chance.
This is his 2nd account=2nd chance. Hacking is not allowed on our servers in the first place so this ban is fully justified if you were caught doing it twice.
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Never really done it 6-7 times. only 3 times. the very first ban that ever happened was from pixel.
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Rest in peace my efforts to help you out. This is your third time dude? Well then it's settled. You hack over and over again. I highly suggest you stop hacking. With that said, the odds of you being unbanned are very slim, but for the sake of every other server and community out there, please do them the favor of not hacking and just play like anyone else. Hacking doesn't help anyone, not even you.
~16
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This guy should stay banned no doubt of it.
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Never really done it 6-7 times. only 3 times. the very first ban that ever happened was from pixel.
Treat others how you want to be treated. If you don't give other players a chance by cheating and exploiting the game, we won't give you the benefit of a doubt and unban you.
It's just how it is.
Blood
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All i'm saying is I would never hack on tf2ss. I'm not asking to forgive me.
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Regardless of how many times you've hacked and the fact that you claim to only want to hack on specific servers and not on ours, I still don't think you should ever be unbanned. A hacker is a hacker.
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All i'm saying is I would never hack on tf2ss. I'm not asking to forgive me.
It's not about promising that you won't do it, it's the principle. Everyone on our servers should have a clean and happy environment where nobody is using loopholes to get around the system.
You saying that you would never hack (on the servers) is the equivalent of killing someone and asking not to be arrested because you will never kill people again. You've already committed the crime (more than once now so it seems,) and now you suffer the consequences.
If I had the choice, I would deny the appeal.
Blood
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But I never did it on any of the tf2ss servers.
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And all of my bans were admin claims. I have never seen any proof of it. (demos)
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Upload the demos of you playing and we can decide from there.
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Can't file is too big.
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Can't, file is too big.
EDIT: i added it on dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/dleyl5rbs0y33d5/nothacking.dem?dl=0
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I will review the demo once I get a chance.
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I know Im not an admin nor any staff member, but I am going to give my thoughts on this. I think you should stay banned. Even though you did not hack on the servers, you still hacked in the community. I mean come one man 3 bans. I would not trust you on the servers, because your 3rd ban might turn into your 4th ban.
Flying knife, If I broke a rule because I commented here, you may delete this.
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I think everyone has given him a chance, heck, even I have, since I'm reviewing the demo later. But as of posting this, I'm still on the side of keeping him banned.
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Not much we can do then....you will be given the chance for review but you still have two other attempts on records.
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Not much we can do then....you will be given the chance for review but you still have two other attempts on records.
I respect your thought, but liked I said all off my bans were admin's claims.
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Usually the admins are correct when it comes to hackers...let it be its aimbot, silent shooting etc. You were accused twice before this one and yet you make an alt and try to appeal when you got denied the first time on your other account. This being said you have tried to get unbanned.....What's not from saying you will do it again?...because obviously you haven't learned yet.
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But I never did it on any of the tf2ss servers.
So you're admitting that you do hack, but just not on our servers? Like I said, a hacker is a hacker and IMO we're wasting our time on "reviewing" your demos but of course I'm not the one who banned you so I can't decide for others nor do I have the right to deny your appeal.
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The demo you have sent us has nothing to do with being on the SwapShop servers, about the time where we accused you of hacking. You could've just turned off all the hacks while in this Valve server, and turned them on some other time. This demo seems like it's with your main account, and not the ALT you made yesterday.
I am still going with my verdict of keeping you banned. As other people said, you had PLENTY of chances to redeem yourself.
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Never really done it 6-7 times. only 3 times. the very first ban that ever happened was from pixel.
You've been witnessed hacking first hand many times. At request to turn them off, you often did. But it wasn't right to have to ask of it almost daily.
Along with your demo, you should have recorded when you were being called out, it could have shown us your screen. Anyone can make a video after the fact with all programs turned off.
Have you been a heavy Aimbot user? No, but the one you use the most often is wallhacks. Most people who download any scripting software, and claim to be "Legit" will use it as they see in their eyes they are not cheating, and using nothing to assist their aim.
I also banned you before the whole SB Crash where all of our bans were lost at the time. Don't forget the bans of your other alts prior to that incident last year.
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-I'm not gonna quote anyone-
You had two previous accounts that were both banned by hacking, or more specifically aimbotting. My question is that what makes you think that we will accept your appeal over that information?
It's one thing to make an account and get banned for it, and then make another account and don't hack on it. The fact that you did it on both accounts is completely stupid.
And you want a third chance?
No, that's not how we do things here, buddy.
And does it matter if you hack somewhere else but not here? Of course it does. We don't want hackers. Period. Whether it was on this server or on another server.
However, if you were banned falsely, then we may take a look at it, however that doesn't seem to be the case. Plus, we have a common rule:
Once a hacker, always a hacker.
In my opinion, you should stay banned. And even IP banned so you don't make another account and get on our servers again.
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Its been stated you were banned from multiple accounts...
Its been stated you were asked to disable hacks and you complied...
Its a proven fact that history does repeat itself...
Read our rules - It is clearly stated that hacking is not tolerated. No warning must be given and the offending player will be banned on sight.
The very fact that staff have come and warned you in the past speaks volumes... So if we are not present how can we trust that you won't just turn them back on when we leave?
I suggest you give-up the hacks on all servers as you will continue to be banned on sight if you continue to use them.
Learn to play the game as intended and increase your skill instead of being a parasite on the community.
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And all of my bans were admin claims. I have never seen any proof of it. (demos)
Well, next time we get a report that you, or anyone else is hacking, I'll make sure to record every second of it so that people can't say "you don't have proof". Saying that we don't have proof of you hacking is pretty much "I was hacking, but you don't have proof that I was using them even though you watched me do it (twice)." And why would we need to show you demos of you hacking if we convicted you TWICE for hacking? Do you even understand our logic behind banning you?
But I never hack on tf2ss servers
Okay...well this is a lie. Why would we ban you (twice) if you never hack on tf2ss servers?
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When someone asked about your main account:
I did but it got denied. and I really didn't have much proof to help save it. the fact that i was soldier when i got banned.
Do you mean your ban appeal got denied on TF2SS or when you appealed to Valve?
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When someone asked about your main account:
I did but it got denied. and I really didn't have much proof to help save it. the fact that i was soldier when i got banned.
Do you mean your ban appeal got denied on TF2SS or when you appealed to Valve?
On tf2ss. And I like to point out that I haven't joined tf2ss since that last 4-6 months since my main account got banned thus having my appeal denied. TheFlyingKnife said it could be opened again if I had proof me me innocent. During my time off of Tf2, I moved on to Gmod and Csgo.
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And if any of you admins recall a guy name Maxbox. He too used cheats for tf2 until it became a struggle to handle the constant hate and manual bans on trading sites. so he gave up on hacking and started creating a youtube series called "Spot the hacker". But like all of the admins say. A hacker is a Hacker. But that hacker can change for the benefits of playing with their friends on their favorite server.
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Understand it from our point of view. You have a reputation in the community for hacking which is a violation of our server rules, let alone Steam's Terms & Conditions of Service. You give an example of a "retired" hacker but how can we be sure that you're going the same route as Max Box? We are not going to take a chance of unbanning you based on your claim that "a hacker can change." While it is true that hackers like Max Box can change, that doesn't really excuse YOU from being banned. It's like saying "Oh that criminal finally stopped committing crimes and he got out of jail so why can't I be treated the same?" Sorry but I highly doubt that the admin, atom1c, will lift your ban.
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Understand it from our point of view. You have a reputation in the community for hacking which is a violation of our server rules, let alone Steam's Terms & Conditions of Service. You give an example of a "retired" hacker but how can we be sure that you're going the same route as Max Box? We are not going to take a chance of unbanning you based on your claim that "a hacker can change." While it is true that hackers like Max Box can change, that doesn't really excuse YOU from being banned. It's like saying "Oh that criminal finally stopped committing crimes and he got out of jail so why can't I be treated the same?" Sorry but I highly doubt that the admin, atom1c, will lift your ban.
I agree. I believe in second chances, but you have done it multiple times. Changing from being a hacker is no excuse. People get Treated differently through the eyes of many different people. Some people praise you, others dont. Even though you claim you will stop hacking, many people do not believe, and honestly I am one of those people.
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I never said i will and I understand your point of view. I'm saying that never hacked on the server and never will. I tried to put as much effort on my other ban appeal but lets just say i'm not very good at thought.
As for right now I'm just trying to prove me innocents but much of it pretty inconceivable. I just want to play on my favorite servers where I made a lot of really awesome friends. I had 500 hours on that server.
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Even though you say you have not hacked on the servers, you say that you have hacked somewhere else. That just leaves us with anxiety that one day you could turn on your hacks and join the SwapShop servers, and start hacking away. Hacking is NOT tolerated under any circumstances. The verdict is already decided, and your ban is going to stay.
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Despite the fact that you provide a solid reasoning behind how you have no intention to hack on our servers, we nevertheless -- and unfortunately -- cannot accept your ban appeal due to all the statements that our admins have expressed which explain why. We do appreciate your honesty, however.
Ban appeal denied.
Topic locked.