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General => Suggestions / Feedback => Old Suggestions / Feedback => Topic started by: FAP GOD on January 21, 2017, 06:22:02 PM
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Hello, I wanted to ask if you have heard of tf2c...
what is tf2c? Tf2c is a mod built off of the source 2008 sdk that reverts tf2 back to it's roots as well as add beta elements and some new elements to the game.
Now to where this ties in with tf2ss, I would like to ask if it would be possible/would be wanted to make tf2c swapshop servers and while this mod is very unnoticed compared to other source mods, I believe it has potential to be something great. Here is some information about the mod as well as it's discord
Discord: https://discord.gg/4hfzqzw
Offical mod site: http://tf2classic.com/
So what do you think about the mod? I would love to see some swapshop servers in tf2c! I hope I have convinced you to make a tf2classic server Swapshop staff :) Have a great day!!!
EDIT 1: Poll Added
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Moved to Suggestions / Feedback
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Sorry sipow, didn't know quite sure where to put this ;-;
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Last time I checked, there aren't very many servers that support this mod. This could be something interesting for SwapShop if it was to be added.
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I belive it would be a nice addition to see something like a crit server, or something that swapshop is known for with features such as a scout with a nailgun, something that tf2c is known for
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Nice find! I've played TF2C before. I had thought about making a server suggestion for this game but I didn't think it would go any where. Props for having the guts to put this out there. I support your idea. ;)
I think SwapShop should have servers for this game. Maybe we could try to get regular TF2 players on TF2C. I sort of doubt that anyone would want to play this game. It's kind of dead right now... The last thing I heard about this game was that a few "pro" players have played on some of the servers.
If this really works out, then I could see SwapShop being a lasting community within TF2C. If and only if SwapShop really wants to put the work into getting that game populated, then I would wager the odds of SwapShop becoming this game's savior pretty high.
With a new and fresh start, SwapShop could really take off in TF2C and underline a majority of the game's communities and atmospheres. The prospects could be quite high, yet Loadsamoney may be scrounging around for dimes right now.
Besides, do we really have the time, determination, and the minds to resurrect TF2C? I wouldn't know. We certainly don't have a massive community. This is especially true on the forums. We would have to just wait and see. In the meantime, put up a poll and let people vote. :) From there we can decide whether we would be comfortable and ready to take on such a challenge. Head Administration should also consider what this could mean for the community as a whole.
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Nice find! I've played TF2C before. I had thought about making a server suggestion for this game but I didn't think it would go any where. Props for having the guts to put this out there. I support your idea. ;)
I think SwapShop should have servers for this game. Maybe we could try to get regular TF2 players on TF2C. I sort of doubt that anyone would want to play this game. It's kind of dead right now... The last thing I heard about this game was that a few "pro" players have played on some of the servers.
If this really works out, then I could see SwapShop being a lasting community within TF2C. If and only if SwapShop really wants to put the work into getting that game populated, then I would wager the odds of SwapShop becoming this game's savior pretty high.
With a new and fresh start, SwapShop could really take off in TF2C and underline a majority of the game's communities and atmospheres. The prospects could be quite high, yet Loadsamoney may be scrounging around for dimes right now.
Besides, do we really have the time, determination, and the minds to resurrect TF2C? I wouldn't know. We certainly don't have a massive community. This is especially true on the forums. We would have to just wait and see. In the meantime, put up a poll and let people vote. :) From there we can decide whether we would be comfortable and ready to take on such a challenge. Head Administration should also consider what this could mean for the community as a whole.
I agree with most of what peter's saying, We could be a savior of tf2classic, also the mod's not dead, It's seemed that way because the devs are having trouble with the latest update, you can talk to them with the discord link I provided you...
also thanks peter for the encouragement on this topic, I props you and no sipow because of giving me credit <3
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It's possible to think of this as an opportunity for our servers.
We could gain a lot of traffic while this game is still in its developmental stages.
The main issue I have here is the compatibility, and the accessibility of the servers. People need to join from a separate/modded client I believe. Also, the compatibility of TF2SS's plugins and/or maps. Unsure if any tweaking would be required.
Nevertheless, it is still a decent idea. - Not bad.
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It's possible to think of this as an opportunity for our servers.
We could gain a lot of traffic while this game is still in its developmental stages.
The main issue I have here is the compatibility, and the accessibility of the servers. People need to join from a separate/modded client I believe. Also, the compatibility of TF2SS's plugins and/or maps. Unsure if any tweaking would be required.
Nevertheless, it is still a decent idea. - Not bad.
You do understand that this mod has been practically dead for months now, right? I have no idea what the development team is doing, but I'm sure they've been behind for quite a while. In addition, the community barely exists. Not only would you have to work for functionality on these servers but you would also have to work to practically build a community for the game. Would you or anyone else even want the same functionality and maps SwapShop applies to the TF2 servers?
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also the mod's not dead, It's seemed that way because the devs are having trouble with the latest update, you can talk to them with the discord link I provided you...
Great job reading peter.... : ^ )
It's possible to think of this as an opportunity for our servers.
We could gain a lot of traffic while this game is still in its developmental stages.
The main issue I have here is the compatibility, and the accessibility of the servers. People need to join from a separate/modded client I believe. Also, the compatibility of TF2SS's plugins and/or maps. Unsure if any tweaking would be required.
Nevertheless, it is still a decent idea. - Not bad.
Yes it requires a modded client and yes it requires it's own server setup which in my standards are much harder than tf2 server setup but never the less I think it would be bread and butter for swapshop if they started servers for tf2classic....
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It's possible to think of this as an opportunity for our servers.
We could gain a lot of traffic while this game is still in its developmental stages.
The main issue I have here is the compatibility, and the accessibility of the servers. People need to join from a separate/modded client I believe. Also, the compatibility of TF2SS's plugins and/or maps. Unsure if any tweaking would be required.
Nevertheless, it is still a decent idea. - Not bad.
You do understand that this mod has been practically dead for months now, right? I have no idea what the development team is doing, but I'm sure they've been behind for quite a while. In addition, the community barely exists. Not only would you have to work for functionality on these servers but you would also have to work to practically build a community for the game. Would you or anyone else even want the same functionality and maps SwapShop applies to the TF2 servers?
To be honest, I'm not all that deep into the community. I've never even played the mod myself. I've seen some talk and gameplay but that's pretty much it.
In regards to how tf2ss would work on the servers, well, shop has always been an integral part of the community. It's custom for players to be able to buy credits and use them. In-game currency. I couldn't imagine that feature being excluded, especially one that was made specifically for tf2ss.
However, I could live without it if need be. Who knows? It may work regardless. I don't code plugins, so that's not my expertise.
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Great job reading peter.... : ^ )
Lol! I completely missed that. Thanks for point it out. ;) But I'm afraid you didn't fully comprehend my post either. Anyways, I'm not sure I would even trust the developers on that sort of claim. That must be some issue or some laziness. :P
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no they have uploaded multiple videos showcasing features the current build does not have
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no they have uploaded multiple videos showcasing features the current build does not have
I've checked their Discord, their FacePunch thread, their YouTube, and their site. There are no new or recent videos showcasing any new features. There are probably features they've showcased in the past that aren't in the current build and the status of those features are unknown.
As far as I'm concerned and as far as I've heard and seen, the project is either slow going, bugged, or on a hiatus. Still, I'm unsure of the current population of the servers but I'm almost sure that department is sort of abandoned. Sooooo... If you find any new videos showcasing those new features, then I'll be quite excited. :)
I certainly hope the team gets crackin' on the project again and I know some of them have shown the project's progress on different YouTube accounts. So there may be some videos they're not sharing with their typical outlets. If that's the case, then you're either one crafty or lucky guy. ;)
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didn't check hard enough:
https://github.com/danielmm8888/TF2Classic/commit/90a1b8be79468a4c25e4ec6192b610c159345b62
Their official github page referencing the sandvich in the next tf2 classic update ;)
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didn't check hard enough:
https://github.com/danielmm8888/TF2Classic/commit/90a1b8be79468a4c25e4ec6192b610c159345b62
Their official github page referencing the sandvich in the next tf2 classic update ;)
Nice! I didn't know they had a Github. It's a shame that the last commit was made on Jul 18, 2016. It seems like it's been dead or on a hiatus for half a year.
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still they do claim that this would be the year so idk XD
EDIT: Who chose the spy option?
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still they do claim that this would be the year so idk XD
EDIT: Who chose the spy option?
Did they claim that this year they'd get the project out of beta or something? You seem to be way more passionate about the project than I am. I should do some Googling on this stuff. Maybe I'll see if I can find a quote to match that statement. :P
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they claimed next update will come out this year, idk though it seems that alot of hope is lost in half the dev team....
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they claimed next update will come out this year, idk though it seems that alot of hope is lost in half the dev team....
Aw, man. I should really take the time to find this quote. I hope they haven't given up. This is the only TF2 mod that I know of. It would be a massive shame if they decided to quit. TF2C is already pretty good. Let's hope that the devs get back at it or a community comes by to breath some life into it. Heck, a new wave of people could lead to more developers.
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they claimed next update will come out this year, idk though it seems that alot of hope is lost in half the dev team....
Aw, man. I should really take the time to find this quote. I hope they haven't given up. This is the only TF2 mod that I know of. It would be a massive shame if they decided to quit. TF2C is already pretty good. Let's hope that the devs get back at it or a community comes by to breath some life into it. Heck, a new wave of people could lead to more developers.
why have an old quote when you could have one from a few minutes ago from when i asked
http://imgur.com/jMIbKIJ
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why have an old quote when you could have one from a few minutes ago from when i asked
http://imgur.com/jMIbKIJ
Niiiiice! I'm glad to see that they haven't given up on the project! :D Anyways, back on to the topic. We should think about helpin' out with their community dilemma. We would have a lot of pros and cons on the table. The poll results seem a little everywhere. We'll see what others say. The only thing that would seriously matter is bringing the idea to the head administration and keeping it on their radar. ;)
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While I am banned from being admin on tf2 swapshop servers, I believe I should be Head-Admin for Tf2Classic Swapshop servers as I am the one who started this thread and brought the attention to the game
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While I am banned from being admin on tf2 swapshop servers, I believe I should be Head-Admin for Tf2Classic Swapshop servers as I am the one who started this thread and brought the attention to the game
Riiiiiiiight...
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While I am banned from being admin on tf2 swapshop servers, I believe I should be Head-Admin for Tf2Classic Swapshop servers as I am the one who started this thread and brought the attention to the game
Then I hope you're prepared to do all of the following:
- Handle applications.
- Manage the staff.
- Take care of admin abuse.
- Know when to demote a staff member.
- Know when to deny or accept an application.
- Put up with people constantly messaging you for a bunch of issues that you have no control over.
- Promote accepted applicants.
- Lead a whole crew of admins who will look up to you as a role model and you will be held responsible for any fuck-ups they do.
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While I am banned from being admin on tf2 swapshop servers, I believe I should be Head-Admin for Tf2Classic Swapshop servers as I am the one who started this thread and brought the attention to the game
Well... I don't think it will be as easy as that. You'll have to put in a lot of work regardless of where ever you go with this idea. I've made a lot of suggestions here at SwapShop. Very few of my suggestions may have been put into place. I assume that those few suggestions may not even be to my credit.
Anyways, if you feel like you have the caliber and the responsibility to undertake such a position and assume a myriad of other positions, then I say go for it. You'll need a lot of help around here and I know that a lot of people here aren't necessarily quick to jump on anything new. Moreover, they're obviously skeptical of your integrity. As a leader, your character will mean more than the results and the skills you apply to achieve those results.
You have my approval on this idea. Build your character, build your relations, build your skill set, and build your vision. If and only if you're up to it, then get to it. Never back down from help, never back down from a question and never back down from your vision. Mature it, change it, nurture it, and move it forward. You can do it but you can't do it alone. It all starts with a humble heart and a dream. Boast in your weaknesses for they're your strengths. But don't allow your strengths to go too far; otherwise they'll be your downfall.
http://www.gzaas.com/DQ9hJaS
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thanks, I really appreciate it, I ask that if this idea goes into play, I would like you to work along side me or be some guidance peter as I find you most helpful (no disrespect to other admins/the owner)...
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thanks, I really appreciate it, I ask that if this idea goes into play, I would like you to work along side me or be some guidance peter as I find you most helpful (no disrespect to other admins/the owner)...
I can't promise everything but I can help out. I know we also have some people here who can help make it happen. They're just skeptical right now. They know they're the best, but they're just not ready to put the work into this. They're either unsure, too lazy, or generally unwilling; they have good reasons to be too. I know I've been a busy academic bee this year. I would assume the same for a lot of people here at SwapShop. Talk to some of the other people here too. See if you can get some more support and some more hands. I'll be discussing it with them as well.
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Agreed, but I do believe if anyone is to work on this it should be either me or you peter as we seem to be the ones here with the knowledge of this game
EDIT: also yes I'm prepared to do the necessary tasks to achieve the swapshopclassic servers
but i do appreciate your scare tactics : ^ )
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Agreed, but I do believe if anyone is to work on this it should be either me or you peter as we seem to be the ones here with the knowledge of this game
EDIT: also yes I'm prepared to do the necessary tasks to achieve the swapshopclassic servers
but i do appreciate your scare tactics : ^ )
I wouldn't say I have an abundance of knowledge on TF2Classic. But I could find some stuff out. You're right since we'd probably be the only two people working on this project. Not many people here want to work on anything new. If you're prepared for such a position, then you need to act like it and work like it. It's not a scare tactic. It's the straight up reality on what it means to be a leader. I didn't know leadership scared you. Maybe you're not ready right now but that's okay.
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Agreed, but I do believe if anyone is to work on this it should be either me or you peter as we seem to be the ones here with the knowledge of this game
EDIT: also yes I'm prepared to do the necessary tasks to achieve the swapshopclassic servers
but i do appreciate your scare tactics : ^ )
I wouldn't say I have an abundance of knowledge on TF2Classic. But I could find some stuff out. You're right since we'd probably be the only two people working on this project. Not many people here want to work on anything new. If you're prepared for such a position, then you need to act like it and work like it. It's not a scare tactic. It's the straight up reality on what it means to be a leader. I didn't know leadership scared you. Maybe you're not ready right now but that's okay.
Im not scared of being a leader, to be honest what you call reality I call scare tactics, Like i said before and what the medic might say I am prepared to do what ever it takes...
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Im not scared of being a leader, to be honest what you call reality I call scare tactics, Like i said before and what the medic might say I am prepared to do what ever it takes...
If you're not scared, then, to you, those shouldn't be words of fear but words of encouragement.
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Well I didnt think the words made a joke now did I?
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Well I didnt think the words made a joke now did I?
I never mentioned anything about jokes. :P What are you getting at?
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You seem to think i dont understand
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You seem to think i dont understand
No, I don't understand. :P
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what im saying is you seem to belive im scared and dont understand what im getting myself into....and ofcourse your right but i'd like to think thats the best part of life tbh
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what im saying is you seem to belive im scared and dont understand what im getting myself into....and ofcourse your right but i'd like to think thats the best part of life tbh
You're right. It's one of the best things about life. :) It only gets better when you rise from the ashes. Keep at it. ;)
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Pure words of wisdom yet again peter, anywho I would like you on the tf2css team if this sucessfully launches, that is if your up for the challenge
EDIT: Can I get an update on the status....
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....??? no release I guess :'(
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Keep in mind that not all suggestions are looked into right away. There have been many suggestions in the past that weren't denied or accepted until a few months later. Bumping the topic won't help it at all. You're just annoying everybody.
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TBH I was trying, I know this is a really narrow minded way to think but I see this as the biggest swapshop community boost we could get, We need to do this. If we don't, we might just loose a great community boost and make a great mod go undiscovered....I am extremely open to not bumping the thread but I tend to disagree on waiting when it comes to this... So sorry, not sorry, sorry?
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If the actual game (tf2) isn't going to get much traction, then how can a smaller developmental mod of the game do any better? True, we've seen many games in early development be loved by many, and the idea looks good on paper, but the mod doesn't look to be moving very fast from what it seems this discussion has ended up to. I think once we see signs of players switching over more towards the mod of the game, it is possible that we would greatly benefit from this idea. It has potential, however, I see flaws in attempting to migrate over to the mod at this time.
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To clarify, I'm not against the idea. I just don't think it would be the right time since the mod doesn't seem to be in full development at this moment, and the player base is low.
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To clarify, I'm not against the idea. I just don't think it would be the right time since the mod doesn't seem to be in full development at this moment, and the player base is low.
I'm in the same boat. If only the player base had a decent population, then it would make sense to act upon the idea. It's a great idea but he probably didn't know about the population. We've also proved that the game's development has been put on hold.
Be the blunt, I feel like this topic shouldn't have been made in the first place since TF2C has been struggling. Nevertheless, it's on our radars now. Cheers to hoping for the mod's success. At least we killed some time with a little hypothetical musing.
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I wouldn't be to quick to jump on the bandwagon yet, While we have established that they are inactive, they have an update date for this year set in motion
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I enjoy the idea.
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I enjoy the idea.
you are my new favorite admin :3
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If this passes I would like to nominate Nation and Peter as the two head admins for the swapshop classic servers...If this get rejected, I would like say thanks for taking my idea into consideration....
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If this passes I would like to nominate Nation and Peter as the two head admins for the swapshop classic servers
That is not how it works...
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You don't get to nominate people for head administration. We are not going to just hire anyone to administer on our servers either. Even Peter and Nationn would find that statement funny.
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well we need to start somewhere, how can we have theoretical servers being maintained if we have no one to start off maintaining them.
EDIT: To better say why I nominate them for such servers is nationn being in my shoes and having the experience that I lack to train me and mold me into what I must be and peter as the other nomination because of his enthusiasm and experience of the game...
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But how exactly does that make them fit for the position?
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You do realize that the current staff we have including me would be the staff that Death will hire if he takes your idea, right?
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It makes them fit because they are both demoted/retired admins who I see fit for these servers because of the reasons listed above, besides even if I had no reason obviously they were shopswap admins for a reason and judging by how psy talked of how they would laugh at me "nominating them" I'd say I chose some good admins....
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You do realize that the current staff we have including me would be the staff that Death will hire if he takes your idea, right?
I do also see a giant benefit of Peter, Nationn, And I as admins because of our knowledge of the actual game, peter and nationn's admin experience, and me being in contact with the developers of the game...death would be most ignorant if he did not hire who I've listed to be apart of the main admins...
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death would be most ignorant if he did not hire who I've listed to be apart of the main admins...
Oh the irony
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They were never staff members to begin with. Dude, before you start talking, make sure you get the facts right. You're literally nominating Peter simply because you had a few conversations with him on a few posts that you or he made, and you're only nominating Nationn because he got banned from reapplying like you. Where is the logic behind any of that? I said that even they would laugh at your statement because your reasons for choosing them are just crazy and funny to hear. Peter knows he's not just gonna randomly chosen to be admin. Nationn knows that he's banned from reapplying and therefore can't even be considered for any administrative position.
Lastly, Death wouldn't be ignorant for not hiring you three. He might ask Peter for help since Peter seems to know a bit about the mod. But I don't think Nationn even knows about the mod, let alone care about it. You're simply nominating yourself because you're just that power-hungry...
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They were never staff members to begin with. Dude, before you start talking, make sure you get the facts right.... You're simply nominating yourself because you're just that power-hungry...
I do really like how these two contradict each other. First off I'm not power hungry, If I was I would come back on a brand new account to reapply which I don't because it was a stupid idea the first time and it would be even more obvious the second time...Secondly yes I chose Nationn for that reason but not only that reason, I see great potential in him and just like me, he made a second account just to come back for a second chance. Third, it's starting to sound like you have something against me, I don't know why but i feel a hatred for me when you comment on me, So I'd like to know if you do or don't....
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Truth be told, I don't hate anyone. I'm simply pointing out why all of your arguments are invalid based on the lack of logic behind them.
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I do really like how these two contradict each other. First off I'm not power hungry, If I was I would come back on a brand new account to reapply which I don't because it was a stupid idea the first time and it would be even more obvious the second time...Secondly yes I chose Nationn for that reason but not only that reason, I see great potential in him and just like me, he made a second account just to come back for a second chance. Third, it's starting to sound like you have something against me, I don't know why but i feel a hatred for me when you comment on me, So I'd like to know if you do or don't....
Bruh, stop letting your mouth spit before you can think and accept some criticism.
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This has gone on long enough. I am hereby locking this topic to prevent further conflict and to prevent it. For now let us just vote in the poll and the post will be updated when accordingly.
Thank you for your suggestion.
Hades