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I think grapples should go back to hell.
« on: December 13, 2016, 06:12:47 AM »
They are giving me hard times and slightly frustrate me. I come from a community where it was against the rules to use the grapples for forms of combat, but that was to accommodate the large maps the server had.

I am not disagreeing with a new development with swapshop, but from the 11 people I've asked how they felt about grapples most tend to agree they should be taken out.

Thoughts and suggestions?
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #1 on: December 13, 2016, 07:48:49 AM »
I think grapples should be enabled on certain servers, like your orange crit maps for example.
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2016, 10:09:29 AM »
I don't think they were a good addition on ALL servers.
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #3 on: December 13, 2016, 10:13:54 AM »
The issue is that the grapples have an unlimited distance range for items to grapple to.

You can be across the map in the Mario kart and still grapple across.

In reality it should just be shortened so it can be more of a tool, over an an advantage.


Note: The reason I stand up for them, is because they're hella better than the jetpacks.

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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #4 on: December 13, 2016, 11:13:14 AM »
Perhaps adding a limited time to the grappling. In other words, you grapple to a wall and only can be on it for like 1.5 seconds.
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #5 on: December 13, 2016, 11:34:41 AM »
Someone suggested to me that they should be like VIP in a way, where you buy them from the store to use them for a short amount of time
Or that they should COME with vip. (to also entice people to get VIP)
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #6 on: December 13, 2016, 03:28:18 PM »
Add a poll.
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2016, 08:15:33 PM »
Someone suggested to me that they should be like VIP in a way, where you buy them from the store to use them for a short amount of time
Or that they should COME with vip. (to also entice people to get VIP)

But as you say, Grapples gives ridiculous advantages.

It would essentially give people "pay to win" and annoy plenty of people. Potentially driving away a player count.

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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2016, 11:35:22 PM »
Adding jetpacks and grappling hooks was an effort to get more players on the servers. I'm thinking it worked, kinda sorta.

I don't think it should be removed though, as the amount of players that enjoy using them would stop playing on swapshop servers. Those who stopped playing because of the ADDITION of the hooks would never know that they were removed if we were to do so, resulting in a huge loss of players.
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #9 on: December 14, 2016, 12:39:06 AM »
Adding jetpacks and grappling hooks was an effort to get more players on the servers. I'm thinking it worked, kinda sorta.

I don't think it should be removed though, as the amount of players that enjoy using them would stop playing on swapshop servers. Those who stopped playing because of the ADDITION of the hooks would never know that they were removed if we were to do so, resulting in a huge loss of players.

To counter that argument, I would like to say that I have observed a lot of players complaining about the grappling hooks. I often hear rude remarks exchanged between players for being "cheap" by grappling away from fights that they cannot win.

Simply put, there are reasons to keep the grappling hooks, as well as reasons to remove them.
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #10 on: December 14, 2016, 07:50:29 AM »
To be perfectly honest, I have not been on the servers as when I even make an attempt at playing on my favorite servers(Orange X# Crits) or any other server for that manner I see people constantly trying to be like spiderman using the grapple hooks. Heavys drop out of no where. Players playing as soldiers disregard rocket jumping and just use grapple hooks because it is easier. Random bleed effects because someone hits you with a grapple hook from no where. Grapple hooks in my opinion remove the game-play balance and it is exceptionally annoying to me and therefore I have stopped playing, I only go on the rare time that I get a report now.

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I have voted:  No.

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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2016, 12:24:02 PM »
I voted "No." I wouldn't want Jetpacks or Grappling Hooks on any of these servers. Especially 08. Not that Demosharking could still be effective on 08 but I'm not willing to try when this sort of game breaking feature is around.

In addition, for anyone who doesn't know how to shark or doesn't shark due to play style, this does seem like a huge issue to SwapShop's in-game balance to those who do not typically shark exclusively. Of course, this is all from an 08 perspective. I'm sure it's just as much of an issue on other servers.
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2016, 01:37:00 PM »
I would rather have grappling hooks then jetpacks. As Hamtaro said, there should be a limit time to the grapples.
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #13 on: December 15, 2016, 02:30:10 AM »
Psy, I didn't make a pool because I was never taught how to.
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Re: I think grapples should go back to hell.
« Reply #14 on: December 15, 2016, 11:23:47 AM »
Psy, I didn't make a pool because I was never taught how to.
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